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posted by Davc | 10 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

Very good advice about sending in a meter reading a day after your DD has been taken, it works. DD seems to be worked out to first pay back a debt, then to cover your future annual bill based on last years consumption, so it can be high even going into summer. DD will always be more than needed in summer so send in monthly readings to make sure your account is accurate. Finally it is an option to pay quarterly cash and set up your own savings account to meet the bills, you are then in total control over how much you pay into savings each month. However some tariffs charge slightly more for quarterly cash, which demonstrates that the DD system favours the supplier. 


A comment on the title of this topic, it is not possible to download smart data to your computer because the signals are encrypted. Many people keep useful spreadsheets of meter readings but they have to be made manually from regular readings. 

posted by aSystemOverload | 10 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV
Your last comment is misleading. Of course data can be downloaded, they have just chosen to not allow it at this time. Data will (should) be encrypted before it is transmitted to SP Servers. This is standard for any data transmitted by wire or wirelessly.
It's time SP became far more transparent with our data and substantially improved their customer support. 45 min+ to talk to someone is NOT acceptable.

posted by Davc | 10 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV
IHD displays are paired to the meters with a pass system set by the installer. Yes the data is there in your house but if suppliers allowed communication to your laptop there are obvious hacking dangers. The meters can accept a wide range of commands and communications can easily be two way. The smart program is therefore very protected not only by SP but all suppliers. People report data download in other countries and it would be interesting to know how this is safely achieved. Maybe the zigbee comms are completely separate from the 4G mobile phone comms? Whatever don’t hold your breath for any action on this.

posted by gavlar | 4 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV
Any progress on this. I moved house and moved to Scottish Power. Not having a smart meter before I used to submit meter readings at least once a week as well as capturing all the data in a spreadsheet and doing my own calculations. I don't trust direct debit amounts - far too high. I was led to believe I could access all the data collected by the smart meter in order that I could conduct my own calculations but can't find a way to download it.

posted by DHogg | 4 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

I'm the person that started this topic but I haven't been reviewing it regularly.

I've just moved house and will be leaving Scottish Power shortly.

What I requested is REALLY REALLY simple to achieve. As I said I had an overseas property and this data is really easy to obtain. The key difference overseas is legally the data belongs to the consumer not to the energy retailer. The energy retailer is simply "permitted" to use the data for billing purposes.

The reason for this is that the OS government is pushing "time of day" tariffs and consumers can only make meaningful choices if they fully understand there usage. They can only do this if the data is easily downloaded.

Therefore the data is not collected by the energy retailer but the network distributor and made available to consumers using similar security protocols to banks.

All it takes to get access to YOUR DATA here would be for the Ofgen to recognize that it is YOUR DATA and force the retailers to relase it centrally for access by consumers.

Just my opininon Smiley Happy

posted by Davc | 4 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

@DHogg   What you say is true but only Ofgem can decide on a change, not individual energy companies The data could come directly from the meters or via the DCC computer, but DCC have a lot on their plate right now simply getting the Smets2 data back to the energy companies. They are being extremely cautious about hacking, probably rightly. 

Only  a minority of customers would know how to use their half hourly data if it were to be available. If we move to variable tariffs and there is eg a penalty for electricity between 5pm and 8pm, then customers will not download data, it will be obvious how to manage.   Still Good Luck with the campaign. 

posted by kf | 3 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

I would also be interested in being able to download the data in CSV (or other) formats.  Has there been any progress on making this possible?

posted by Davc | 3 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

@kf   There seems to be no chance of downloading csv data directly from the meter in your house, all the data is encrypted. Possibly some suppliers could release the data to you from their internal records but there are no plans for that. It is hard enough to first get the smart system working correctly. 

posted by DHogg | 3 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

As I have just moved homes, I have just changed from SP to another UK energy provider and have had Smart Meters installed.
The figures aren't coming through  yet but  on the new  energy provider's site there is a button to download my usage as a CSV file.

I don't know if its related but there is also mention on the site of "MiData", which is a government lead initiative for organisations to release data that they hold about customers back to them in a portable electronic format. SP have signed up to this. 

posted by Davc | 3 months ago
Re: Downloading Smart Meter data to CSV

@DHogg  That is very interesting, please tell us how you get on, it is alright to say which supplier offers downloads.